Christianity and Theology of Politics
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“Political theology is therefore not simply political ethics but reaches further by asking about the political consciousness of theology itself. It does not want to make political questions the central theme of theology or to give political systems and movements religious support. Rather, political theology designates the field, the milieu, the environment, and the medium in which Christian theology should be articulated today.” ~ Jürgen Moltmann
Political theology is a Christian term that emerged during the last half of the twentieth century. Those who hear it for the first time may wonder about its meaning as it seems to imply a bringing together of two forces that are regarded as incompatible; politics (world governments) and theology (church governments).
Political theology, often called public theology or the new political theology, is concerned with how the Christian faith addresses issues in society at large and the relevance of Christian beliefs and doctrines on the general public. It is not concerned with conversion, or proselytizing, but very much interested in the well-being of society. It studies the various ways in which theology lie beneath political, social, economic and cultural development.
In an increasingly pluralistic culture there is extensive agreement that politics and religious faith should be kept separate as they tend to make strange bedfellows. This is certainly understandable as it is difficult to argue against the view that the combination of faith and politics has been the single greatest cause of suffering in human history.
Here in Western culture, there is public misunderstanding as well as outrage at the intrusion of religion in political life. Conservative Protestantism in particular seems to believe that there must be complete avoidance of blending politics and religion. One of the many reasons for this belief is Protestants’ stress on personal decision as the basis of Protestant Christianity which has inadvertently strengthened the view that religion is essentially private and concerned primarily with the inner spiritual life of man. If the world is evil, then Christians, holding this view, have a duty not be become involved in politics. It is felt that privatized faith can be maintained and developed better when it is divorced from the political arena. Of course, to vote is to be involved in the political process.
Another reason for Protestants hesitancy regarding Christianity’s involvement in politics lies in their rejection of the kind of institutional involvement associated with the Roman Catholic Church. They see too close a parallel between the Vatican State and other states. The interests of the church are believed to be too easily identified in terms of property, wealth, privilege and prestige. Protestants lay great stress on freedom of conscience and tend to perceive church/state relations in Catholic countries leading to the enforcement of religious beliefs through civil legislation.
There are those who believe that it is a matter of principle that religious faith and politics should be kept apart. And, there are those who are less concerned about religion entering politics than politics entering religion.
The starting point of political theology is in the examination of the ways in which politics and Christian faith were falsely brought together in the past such as during the time of ancient Rome when formal sacrifices were required to Caesar. This requirement brought the early church into conflict with the state. It was for religious reasons that, through loyalty to the Lord Jesus, Christians would not sacrifice to the lord Caesar. But the Romans assumed that the refusal was based on political grounds, since they themselves saw Christianity as political and not religious.
Also, in the fourth century Christianity was made the state religion, under Constantine. This was not done for evangelical reasons, but rather because the emperor needed something to unite his deeply divided empire. This political policy of unification was presented as if it were the will of God.
And, of course, we know that in the twentieth century we saw even more blatant examples of political movements entering the religious arena. The Nazi leaders systematically presented Hitler not simply as a political figure, but as a messianic religious figure. School children were expected to say certain prayers to Hitler before meals and songs were written to the tune of church hymns with words praising Hitler and the German nation. Thus, the devotion which is appropriate within religion was required in support of political policies.
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The examples given are of a false relationship between politics and theology. It is one in which politics dominates religion, indeed takes over the role and trappings of faith. Religious faith is used and pushed aside, religious values and goals eliminated. Though they do not provide any basis for political theology, they do warn of the dangers which stem from politics blatantly entering the religious sphere.
However, there are other dangers to which political theology must be alert, when Christianity or more specifically, Christian leaders and spokespersons enter the political arena. Returning again to the Roman Empire, we might reflect on the fact that it was founded on war and the enslavement of millions of innocent people and its appointed representative in Judea ordered Jesus’ execution, all for political reasons. Religion is the most powerful instrument for legitimizing, because it presents the things of this world as if they were the things of God.
We recall in the twentieth century the Vatican signed a concordat with National Socialism in Germany, thereby sanctioning it for at least millions of Catholics. More recently, there is the rising movement in America referred to the New Religious Right. While on the surface it looks like a Protestant religious movement, it may be better understood as a conservative political coalition which is enlisting faith to justify it values and goals. The “Congressional Report Card,” drawn up by Christian Voice presents the voting record of members of the Senate and House on a selected number of topics of right wing interest.
Political theology is therefore primarily theology conscious of the false ways in which politics and religion has been related in the past, and indeed still is in the present. Attention is paid to political movements which use religious faith for their own ends, and religious movements which simply validate political interests. In this 21st century, observers have noticed a new danger, namely that faith might be used to sanction the goals and values of the political left.
The book, The Bully Pulpit: The Politics of Protestant Clergy,” written by five social scientists explored the political lives of clergy in eight evangelical and mainstream Protestant denominations. Results indicated that the competing theological perspectives of orthodoxy and modern thought are increasingly tied to ideological and partisan divisions in American politics.
In the face of the complexities already indicated, it would be very tempting to conclude that it would be safer if Christianity did indeed stay out of politics. But, two problems immediately emerge when this temptation is seriously contemplated.
First, to withdraw from the political sphere simply provides legitimacy by default. If there is no faith protest against certain policies or injustices, then there seems to be a tacit approval of them. If we are not against evil then we support it.
Secondly, political theology is opposed to the privatization of the Christian faith, to reducing Christianity to being concerned merely with the inner life of man. The work and teachings of Christianity is relevant for all humanity, not just Christians. The doctrine of creation, for example, has relevance for all humanity. If God is Creator, then God is the Creator of all, not just churchgoers. Similarly, many contemporary social and ethical debates have relevance for theology (abortion, cloning, mercy killings, homosexuality, etc.,).
Christianity is certainly personal, but it cannot be private; it must always be involved in a variety of social relationships and responsibilities. Political theology attempts to regain the biblical perspective of social responsibility. But it is not simply a social theology because social issues lead immediately into the political stadium.
Political theology is really a generic name which includes many examples of theology which has become politically conscious. Black Theology, Feminist Theology, Liberation Theology is specific forms of political theology where theology brings biblical perspective to bear on social injustices. Discrimination on the basis of race or gender or class is not simply a social matter, and when institutionalized, it can only be countered by political action.
In all of these situations we see political theology first of all as bringing to light ways in which faith has been exploited in the past to lend credence and legitimacy to discrimination. It then goes on to indicate how biblical perspectives lead to a new understanding of race, class and gender issues. But in modern times, political theology is learning rather quickly that it must, itself, guard against being used by new groups to legitimize extreme views.
“In the founding era of our country, it was not organized religion but personal faith that brought focus and unified the early leadership--maybe an unspoken faith in God, and certain values that came with that faith. So in that sense, we cannot discount, in my judgment, religious faith in politics.” BILLY GRAHAM, Newsweek, Aug. 14, 2006.
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Ted Jelen, The Political World of the Clergy
James L. Guth et al., The Bully Pulpit: The Politics of Protestant Clergy
S. Hill and D. Owens, The New Religious Political Right in America
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The Concordat between Germany & the Vatican. - Theology Today - Vol 28, No. 1 - April 1971 - ARTICLE - Political Theology
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MSorensson,
Thank you for being my first to respond and leaving such a positive and encouraging message.
I agree that education is needed and we do what we can thorugh our hubs and other venues. For those that God has blessed with insight and knowledge, it is our responsibility to share.
Again, thank you for visiting and sharing your thoughts.
Love, peace and joy in Him!
Forever His,
Rev Lady, a powerful message on the line in the sand that separates the law and the divine law. I find this subject quite interesting as much of our laws are of the Old Testament flavor. If total separation of church and state is ever reached we will be in for a wild ride. I keep saying "we" and really should say "future generations" as it's late enough in my day that I doubt I see the days that would come from a totally wicked or evil government on the shores of this country. To an extent Americans are insulated from the evil I see in countries such as North Korea or Iran. Americans really believe it can't happen here. They are in for a surprise.
Thanks for a great hub, Stay Blessed,50
Morning RevLady... as a general rule politics and the pulpit share a far different ground in the eyes of the public and yet they should not.
A precious Pastor I knew ran for political office and turned the pulpit into a personal platform for his own agenda, the results were devastating to the body and people fell off in droves, yet he failed to see why.
The same principle needs to apply to politics entering the pulpit, the government needs to stay out of the churches, we should be allowed to have all the rights and the freedoms the Bible speaks of and yet we being the quite passive Christians we are have allowed prayer to be pulled from schools and look at the effects that has had on our society, all in a effort to appease a few people who might be offended.
Great hub and you have certainly spoken the truth here... thank you.
Blessings and Hugs
50, Quill,
Sometimes, I think Christianity has run scared of standing up against the status quo. Actually, I am not sure any one really pays any attention to Christianity unless they need votes or to ensure keeping us out of politics, exploit our sins. The visible church may be becoming the new invisible institution.
Thanks for you input friends,
Love and hugs,
Forever His,
i think that religion in politics is "very" dangerous. our forefathers did too, you have to keep in mind that religion. is just and only that. it is a "BELIEF" . . . only!if it weren't, then we would have only one religion on this planet. but, we have many, and they are all man made. so to make a religion the basis for our gov't would be rhetorical and open ourselves up to confrontation. for example in china christianity is a felony. but you will find american christians continually ignoring this by spreading the word in china regardless, because they think it is their duty. if religion were in our gov't we would have the same thing happen to us. we would or could be at war everywhere and everyday huh. i think religion should only be personal. this was a good hub
I see what you mean Joe. There are many problems that arise from mixing religion with politics. And yet, it is also difficult to not get involved with issues that impact and affect our lives and the lives of those who make up the church.
Though I can emphathize with all the reasons for personal religion, it contradicts what our Lord taught us. As you said, Christians believe it is our duty. We must obey God rather than man.
Thank you Joe for sharing your thoughts. You are certainly not alone in your views and I appreciate you sharing with those who read this hub.
Love, peace and joy in Him who has the last Word.
Forever His,
I read so many who think early political leaders wanted seperation of church and state, yes they wrote this but I believe most would not believe this was their true intention, I think they meant they didn't want FORCED religion as in the mother country. I notice few are willing to address the fact that prayer and the mention of God was very much present at each and every meeting our forefathers had!.............I would also like to comment on Islam and how they dictate to government and the people in every country they get a foot hold! When will you address them?
Thank you Revlady, for a very interesting and eye opening hub, thank you for bringing it to our attentio. Godspeed. creativeone59
Good evening Reverend Lady,
This was a very powerful message with lots to give thought to. And a very difficult place to be, where conversation is concerned. Because though Jesus talked about rendering to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God, if it comes to choosing, God is to be chosen first, regardless. "Choose you this day whom you will serve!" Joshua 24:15 There is nothing to think about then!
This was a very deep hub, RevLady, nonetheless one that forces us to think.
May God bless you, today and always. And here's sending you love and BIG hugs.
VKA
American Romance,
Thank you for visiting and leaving comment. I do appreciate it.
You may be right, and I suspect you are, in your understanding of our forefather’s intent.
"I would also like to comment on Islam and how they dictate to government and the people in every country they get a foot hold! When will you address them?"
Thank you for the inquiry but this hub was written primarily to introduce to some and present to others an overview of the origin, purpose and general meaning of political theology.
Creativeone, VKA,
Thank you sisters for your input. I know this is a deviation from my normal presentations but I hope this hub increased your awareness of what political theology is all about.
Love, peace and joy in Him who rules and overrules.
Forever His,
Excellent & thought-provoking. A great reminder of the constant tension between our dynamic faith & a fallen world.
"Christianity is certainly personal, but it cannot be private; it must always be involved in a variety of social relationships and responsibilities. Political theology attempts to regain the biblical perspective of social responsibility. But it is not simply a social theology because social issues lead immediately into the political stadium."
Well said. Thumbs up & awesome.
Ken,
You are right of course, there is great tensions existing and always has, between faith and secular society. We rejoice in knowing that our Commander in Chief has it all in His control.
Love, peace and joy in Him whose purposes cannot fail!
Forever His,
The Moltmann quote is very interesting. I would respectfully disagree that combining faith with politics has caused the most suffering in human history. That would be the Atheist regimes of Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, et al.
Of course, I do not want a theocracy such as we see in Iran. But Secular Humanism is a religion and it now dominates political discussion to the exclusion of all other worldviews. Political leaders forming policy based on their Christian faith is just as good as secular humanists forming policy based on their worldview (better I say personally, but as good I say as a student of politics.) Some on the left claim any view is welcome except the worldview of Christianity. This needs to be recognized for what it is—pernicious. Eliminating the Christian faith from consideration regarding public policy leaves a vacuum that sinister forces are all to eager to fill. I absolutely love these words you wrote:
"Christianity is certainly personal, but it cannot be private; it must always be involved in a variety of social relationships and responsibilities."
Awesome and profound! I like the Billy Graham quote, as well. Thank you for a fabulous piece of work. It is thought-provoking and important. I enjoyed your work here very much.
Thank you James for your response that gives not only me but readers a greater insight into the faith/politics issues of today.
"I would respectfully disagree that combining faith with politics has caused the most suffering in human history."
Actually I am not sure we are not on the same page here. My thoughts were in terms of how political theology views Hitler and others (even our own system) consistently “use” religious faith to promote their own political agenda. Of course, the reverse can also be found to be true.
I absolutely love these words you wrote: "This Eliminating the Christian faith from consideration regarding public policy leaves a vacuum that sinister forces are all too eager to fill." AMEN! AMEN!
Love, peace and joy in Him who loves us.
Forever His,
This is a very intriguing hub, today. The separation of church and state is a debate that will never go away, I'm afraid.
As a person of faith, I have to consider God's teachings with the decisions I make, daily. These decisions include the direction my opinion takes in regards to politics. I suppose this is difficult for non-believers to understand because their life does not revolve around God.
RevLady,
So very well put. Thanks for being true to the Word of God and shining the light on area that needs light. Thanks!
Ama, LG,
I think many Christians struggle with the political aspect of faith. I suppose that is why Jehovah Witnesses and probably many others, do not vote.
Thanks you beloved friends for dropping by. Do come again real soon (smile).
Love, peace, and joy in Him
Forever His,
I had never heard of political theology until today.
Politics and religion run on a very tight rope. Without the Biblical foundational principles of righteousness operating in a society life and culture amounts to "everyone doing what is right in his own eyes" as in the time of the judges. Yet at the same time It doesn't seem healthy for government to dictate religion either.
I was just reading this morning in Samuel when the people demanded a king and Samuel was upset that they could not be content to let God be their ruler as He had always been. Ideally speaking this would be the perfect solution. However extremely unrealistic in this day and time.
Always learning something new from you.
Tamarajo,
It's uncanny how sometimes it seems we think so perfectly alike. I agree with all your thoughts and Love you bringing in Samuel. We can relate because it seem God's children always want to make life for difficult for ourselves, and then, of course, blame the negative consequences on God.
Thanks dear sister and friend,
Forever His,
Wonderful hub. Very educational work. It is obvious that God is part of the basic handy work in our government. In God We trust is on our currency. I think the very righteous core of what American government owns up to, is modeled after moral ideals. God is in my view the creator of moral goodness, and our government has drawn from God, a few ways from a higher power. God Bless You.Great Hub.
Thank you RevLady,
I learned so much from this article. Churches do tell their members how to vote, and that,s wrong.I remember Jerry Falwell so well. My son attends a church that spews out hate against homosexuals, moslems. or anyone who is different, or who believes we should have love for all. God will be the judge, not us. I thank you so much for teaching love in your hubs. I never think you are judgemental.
Love and Peace
Stars,
You are on target and we are of like minds. The sadness, at least for me, is that there is a trend toward universal currency and also to remove, "In God We Trust" off of US ocurrently.
AE,
It saddens me that the church often promote political unrest and fan hatred using the Bible and Christianity as a kind of weapon. May the Lord have mercy on our souls.
I try very hard not to be judgmental as it is unfair to others. I do share my opinion from time to time in matters of faith, but have no need to take it further than that.
Thank you Stars and AE for contributing. You are valued friends and I ALWAYS appreciate when you share your thoughts with me.
Love, peace and joy in Him who is the Judge of all men.
Forever His,
The problems arise when a leader sees himself as a god. Then God must remind him of who God is.
Government leaders use any tool necessary to manipulate people and all too often, religion is used as such a tool.
So true Daydreamer, so true.
Thank you for sharing with me. I appreciate input.
Love, peace and joy!
Forever His,
Rev. you have done some good study here to show what is going on and how we got to this stage with politics and the christian beliefs.
as many places are now trying to cut out christian material in schools and the government it seems that the g/ment is trying to run it their way, have they forgotten it was God who first started the government not man
God bless you
Ramon xo
Raymond,
It does appear that the government has forgotten God. It also seems to me that many Christians has also. What a world!
Thank you for sharing in this issue. God bless you!
Forever His,
This is amazing work Rev Lady!
It is so sad that yes--government has forgotten God. Government is man trying to "order" our lives, "fix" what wrong, "be" all things to all people, when the Bible clearly tells us "I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his steps."
Only when man turns the "power" and the "leadership" and "all authority" over to God, will the ever-increasing problems go away.
Since the 'god of this world' is actively removing any mention of God from our planet, and corrupting as many Churches as he can--it is going to be a very bumpy road until Christ returns to set it all right!
God Bless you for providing illumination to this topic. I am always edified by your teachings!
Yes, Laurie, we are traveling a bumpy road to the city of God. But, oh the joy once we get there.
And yes, this is the "time" for the god of this world to sprew out his emnity against Jesus Christ by attacking His people and creating chaos wherever he can. But we rejoice in knowing that his day is coming to an end. All glory to God!
Love, peace and joy in Him dear sister in Christ Jesus.
Forever His,
Powerful, well written hub! WOW! I also agree when you said RevLady: It does appear that the government has forgotten God. It also seems to me that many Christians has also. What a world! You hit the nail right on the HEAD! Double-minded, confusion, lies, blined, all the work of the enemy! True believers, get ready for the coming of the LORD!!! GREAT HUB!!!!!
Dr.,
My hope is in ministries that I have encountered here on hp and elsewhere. God has many true believers who are doing His will and touching lives in His name and God is working miracles. Maybe it is not in the conventional way involving church politics, dogma and rituals etc., but real evangelism and discipleship.
From what I have read of your (and husband's) ministry, you are doing awesome work and I uplift you to our Father and pray that He continues to use you in your clinical work and keep you writing when you can here on hp. Your hubs, like a few others, are nurturing, affirming and healing to my spirit.
Love, peace and joy in Him. Come, Lord Jesus, Come!
Forever His,
Hi Pastor,
I absorb as much of this as my finite mind can retain. I am not sure (well maybe but is it true) where I get my Christian passion to dominate the political focus of faith voting. You have touched a myriad of topical positions within the comment section alone. A few thoughts;
I have very close friends who are JW and I really get discouraged by their disposition to let “anything” be the rule of the day. If there are only two people in the room who vote to kill a JW and one of them is a JW, by default they have participated in their own death. I apologize for such a base analogy, but it is one I have covered with my friend. He openly admits he would defend his family by force, but he wouldn’t vote to defend his family by safe passage, it’s astonishing logic. This is a troubling journey we Christian American’s are on.
I take responsibility for my actions, God needs Christians of differing degrees to unite his children and remove the scales of this world. I see myself as the blunt instrument in the tool box; you my fine pastor are the soft and wise word. There is so much I wish to share here in your comments section that I have to restrain my excitement and fury. I love how you add finesse with which you preach. I am liable to just bonk someone on the head. I am learning thanks to you and others.
God keep you safe.
Jason,
Perhaps, God brought us together in this special way to meet each other’s spiritual needs. I love your hubs and they minister to me in ways I cannot articulate in the space allotted.
God needs both Paul, the blunt instrument and Barnabas, the tender touch, both of whom tradition affirms martyrdom.
If you are not already following Laurie, I encourage you to do so. She is a former JW who recently became Christian and writes about the teachings of JW. You may want to ask her to write a hub addressing the issue indicated. Just click on her name in her comment above. I would love to read what she has to say.
You are a blessed servant of God and I am privileged to have made your acquaintance.
Love, peace and joy in Him who is our hope!
Forever His,
RevLady: Short and simple. I have always believed that Church and politics make very strange bed fellows, like oil and water.
Brother Dave.
Me too. Thanks for dropping by DM.
Forever His,
1Sam 8:7
7. And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. (1Sam 8:7)
This is where God and politics were separated..then He hung around till King David's time..as a silent partner..and let David sit on His throne..but according to 1 Sam 8:7..it is still God's throne that He had to give up and share because the people wanted a Person that they could actually SEE...the same happened when the Israelites made the calf in the dessert..they wanted what they could SEE...
God is the most powerful politician in all history and His Son closely follow in His footsteps...
But did the People change since 1 Sam 8:7's time?
Marliza Gunter,
Thanks for your comment, you brought out a way of looking at it that I had not thought of and gives ideas upon which to ponder.
Right now, I do not perceive of God as a politician as politics is a human thing not spiritual. Jesus while on earth was fully human and preached against the political powers. Yet, He respected the governmental system into which He was born.
God bless you and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts dear sister in Christ Jesus!
Forever His,
There have been many times we as a ministry have turned down financial assistance by a political figure/entity. It became abundantly clear their own motivation was to front a hardcore deliverance ministry in order to further their own agendas. They were attempting to piggyback what we do and what we stand for in an effort to substantiate their own deal.
It was interesting to see v_kahleranderson utilize Joshua 24:15.That one particular verse quickly and efficiently compels us to make a choice. Then, Joshua, makes his own position quite clear. "Do what you will, but this is what I'm doing." Interestingly enough, this ties in with your Hub in another way.
When Christians and members of other religious beliefs step into the political arena, there is a tendancy to compromise ones own personal belief system in favor of a platform which will win votes. Joshua's position of "Do what you will, but this is what I'm doing" tells us that while there are options within a secular/religious agenda, you have to stand your ground regardless if you are to be recognized as little more than an ambulance chasing Christian. Making that decision and sticking with it against political pressure to "sell out God" in favor of the party line means you have to stand and fight and when necessary stand if that's what you can do. In the case of Bishop Long and so many others, we see quickly how the pulpit is converted to a political platform which no longer promotes God. It becomes a feasible launching pad for ideals which, when colored by the notoriety of the speaker in question, become a Trojan Horse.
It is my firm position that Jeremiah 23 should be studied very hard. In as much as political leaders like to paint their positions with Godly references in order to perpetuate the 'safe' and 'favorable' aspects of their agenda, many church leaders betray the responsibilities God placed on them by "fronting" John 1:1 while attempting to use that samesaid position to elevate their own lust for power and prestige. They may claim they do it to develop visibility and recognition for God, but in reality, they try to use God as a vehicle they can ride right into your living room and take your money. Is it any wonder why it is so hard to evangelize in these politically corrupt environments. When God's house has become campaign headquarders, where does this leave the Holy Ghost?
UG,
Absolutely sound comment and God is not pleased with those who blantantly uses His name in vain. Though many, being self-absorbed, may not think about it, there is a judgment day coming when an accounting of the work done is the body will be required. God is not mocked.
Thank you for sharing your passionate thoughts and feelings.
Love, peace and joy in Him,
Forever His,
Ok..maybe you understood me wrong on God being the greatest politician..I am infatuated with the Old Testament on how God fought all those wars, who He conquered and why...taking this also from the Kingdom point of view, Jesus came to establish a Kingdom..God said that like the waters of Noah, so shall be the knowledge of Him over this earth including His reign..every tongue shall confess and every knee shall bend before Him...now..my view..there is no other king, minister, president, emperor or any other political entity that could manage that...
On the earthly and more physical sense...according to prophesy...the moment that there does stand up any political person and set himself forth as extremely Christian like or Christ like and speaks like a LAMB...that's the moment that I would seriously think of fleeing to the mountains..for then I will know that the time of prophesy has come into fulfillment...I would not trust any politician who came to bring peace and united rulership...Jesus came to bring the sword and has set a fire upon the earth..if I see God in the politics then I will know it is not of Him...:)
MG,
Sorry, I probably did misunderstand you because this hub was focused on explaining the meaning and function of "political theology" and why it came into being.
But in your context, I am in absolute agreement.
Love, peace and joy in Him,
Forever His,
Great research and presentation Saundra. Many things to ponder and meditate on. From where I stand, I still see elections as a majority of people trying to institute and legalize their personal beliefs - Christian or otherwise. While I stand firmly against abortion, as an example, to create laws that do or do not legalize it only deals with the carnal man, for if the hearts of the people are still not right, the law doesn't matter. The same applies to homosexuality and every other political agenda. I feel that no matter how righteous a government appears to be, there are still people negatively effected by it, and they want it changed. As Christian, as disciples of Christ, and He being our King, I personally feel it is our job to be represenatives of that kingdom at all times. Being part of a political party or political system doesn't allow us to do that - unless we believe the party or system is in complete unity with Christ, which none are. We also see that year after year, the amount of money politicians need to organize and run a campaign is ridiculous. With the economy in such a wreck, people losing jobs and homes - to see a flood of negative and expensive advertisements for politicians who say they care is just sad. Really, the root reason for government at all, is how best to take money (taxes) from the people and use it to benefit the society. The only time I remember Christ asking someone to give up their money (their taxes or tithes), He said sell it all and give it to the poor - then follow Me. I'm pretty sure there will never be a government that will stand very long with the poor as their platform. As we see even today, the wealthy want to know that their taxes are going to benefit them. Sorry to ramble. Peace.
AW,
I appreciate your "ramble" and I support your view. It is the hard truth.
What is unfortunate, to my mind though, is that Christians living in a society where corrupt government exist, share in the corporate sins of that government and society.
Thanks for your feedback AW. As always you leave something valuable that prompts me to immediately put on my spiritual thinking cap.
Love, peace and joy in Him who in our Commander in Chief.
Forever His,
RevLady:
Thanks for the political education. This hub has brought to me balance. Thank you for taking the time to articulate your understanding of political theology.
Like so many others I liked your statement:
"Christianity is certainly personal, but it cannot be private; it must always be involved in a variety of social relationships and responsibilities."
I would like to quote this on my facebook if you don't mind. :)
Personally, I find it impossible to separate the man from his faith. I believe Forest Gump would say it this way "A Christian is as a Christian does!
Christ never forced his doctrine on others. But he was outspoken and very much involved in the society in which he lived. He spoke out against the false humility of the leaders. Their unbiblical views, their hypocrisy and He even got violent at one point and kicked all the money lovers out of the temple! Boy what would he say and do to the many grubbers in the churches to day?
I believe one of his most profound political statements was render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. This concept was unheard of in that society. The idea that you did not have to share in the Roman belief system to participate in its society. He separated faith from Government. A revolutionary premise at the time.
It is an absolutely breathtaking reality that Christianity had grown so fast that it destabilized Roman society in less then 250 years. They did this with out an ounce of political power. It was all done by word of mouth and the power of the changed life.
I believe the worst thing that happened to Christianity was the combining of church and state. Constantine ruined Christianity he did not save it. While some good did come out of the unification of Christianity such as the Holy Bible, Catholicism politicized the message of Christ, and the personal relationship between man and God was lost.
I thought you did a wonderful job of describing the pros and cons of the use of political theology, an so, I will stop at this point and simply say I loved this hub and thought you did a great job at stating the importance of balance.
In Christ
ABR
ABR,
I smiled as I read your comment for it is indeed refreshing to read such clarity of mind in expressing the difficulties inherent in church/state relations.
“I believe the worst thing that happened to Christianity was the combining of church and state. Constantine ruined Christianity he did not save it. While some good did come out of the unification of Christianity such as the Holy Bible, Catholicism politicized the message of Christ, and the personal relationship between man and God was lost.” AMEN! AMEN!
We have not been able to recover from this devastation for if the head (leadership) is sick, how can the body be well?
May the Lord have mercy on our souls!
Love, peace and joy in Him who is the same yesterday, today, even for evermore!
Forever His,
Rev Lady, EXCELLENT dissertation! Quite thought provoking and insightful! There are numerous political operations in place to suppress God’s Church. To have them conform to their personal agendas rather than allow the spiritual presence of the HOLY SPIRT dominate and transform lives! There is an ongoing trend to set aside the TRUTH of GOD’S HOLY WORD and replace it will liberal worldly concepts and bureaucracy…
Unfortunately some have infiltrated God’s Church in order to further gain control over the masses... and to increase their sphere of influence…The Church is not sacred to them! Rather it is just another platform… It is a place to observe, label and put those they determine radical under a microscope and suppress and or control…This is inclusive of promoting who to vote for, redefining marriage, reconfiguring the family which undermines the authority of the infallible WORD of GOD! Which all serves to undermine the importance of having a personal intimate relationship with the LORD! Lord HELP us!
“In all of these situations we see political theology first of all as bringing to light ways in which faith has been exploited in the past to lend credence and legitimacy to discrimination. It then goes on to indicate how biblical perspectives lead to a new understanding of race, class and gender issues. But in modern times, political theology is learning rather quickly that it must, itself, guard against being used by new groups to legitimize extreme views.” Amen & AMEN!
It is important that we be observant of “ALL things” but not allow anything to deter us from our FIRST & FOREMOST commitment to the LORD and HIS precious HOLY WORD! As laborers in HIS vineyard we have a leader Sovereign SPIRITUAL KING who can overcome evil and rule in the hearts of all who are willing to accept JESUS CHRIST! “Therefore GO and MAKE disciples of ALL nation, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey EVERYTHING I have COMMANDED you. And surely I AM with you always to the very end of the age.” Matthew 28. LORD increase our FAITH!
Thank you for enlightening us …May our Father forever Bless & Keep you in HIS Love and care! Love, Grace, Joy, Peace & Blessings! To GOD Be The GLORY!
Lord you stated it so well. "Unfortunately some have infiltrated God’s Church in order to further gain control over the masses... and to increase their sphere of influence…The Church is not sacred to them! Rather it is just another platform… It is a place to observe, label and put those they determine radical under a microscope and suppress and or control…This is inclusive of promoting who to vote for, redefining marriage, reconfiguring the family which undermines the authority of the infallible WORD of GOD! Which all serves to undermine the importance of having a personal intimate relationship with the LORD! Lord HELP us!" LORD, HELP US!
The natural man is surely suppressing the spiritual in our worship centers and it is a great tragedy, to my mind, because it severely hurts the cause of Christ.
Thanks pastor for the excellence of your comments, affirming of the apparent status of the church, and glorifying our Lord and Savior.
Love, peace and joy in Him who will come again in glory!
Forever His,
Rev Lady, PRAISE GOD! May our Father continue to use you mightily! Let us exalt HIS NAME together... CONGRATULATIONS you have reached 100!
PRAISE GOD!
Thank you dear sister in Christ in giving praises to God for He is worthy of all our devotion.
As for the 100, as with everything else in this world, it is unreliable but thank you for the kind thought.
Love, peace and joy in Him!
Forever His,
Excellent subject matter. I was never sure about politics and religion crossing over each other until I moved to Utah. 85% of Utah representatives are of the Mormon faith and certain laws in the state represent their belief system.
I find that the restrictive alcohol laws and the lack of a lottery availability stem from this belief system. It's neither here nor there what feelings are about these particular issues it's the fact that there is no freedom of choice.
Mormons have put in place these silly laws due to their belief system allowing no choice for the non Mormon. Plus how many other issues do not receive proper representation due to the power that be and their faith?
So I see why our forefathers stipulated the separation of church and state. If you have heavy handedness on either side both are sponges for abuse of power.
I put no stock in any belief system that does not allow choice. The Mormons are not allowed to ingest caffeine, and are restricted in other behaviors. God allows mankind choices and I have no trust in a faith that does not allow free will.
PM,
You taught me something as I did not know that Mormons more or less controlled laws governing Utah. Interesting.
I agree with you about God allowing mankind choices. This is one of the reasons I advocate Christians spreading God's Word without arguing and trying to convince. We should merely plant the seed and move on leaving the choice to the individual and the conviction to the Holy Spirit.
Love and peace,
Forever His,
Great article, valuable information, and excellent insight from a historical perspective. Thanks for sharing. I read someplace that the seperation of church and state gained greater prominance with Hitler who wanted to prevent the clergy from preaching against his plans for human genocide. He instructed the clergy to stick to matters of religion and let him worry about the state. Any clergy who refused were labeled a 'jew lover' and subsequently prosecuted. Other Western religious leaders thought it was a good idea and carried it forward into the 20th century where it was slighted modified and eventually promoted by our founding fathers in the name of religious freedoms.
Great information and thanks for sharing.
Jxb7076,
Thank you for enhancing this hub with the valuable and enlightening additional information you shared.
The problem, it seems to me, is that there cannot be complete separation of church and state because the same individuals who are citizens of state are the same individuals who are congregants of a church, vote and pay taxes.
Love, peace and joy in Him the real Head of State.
Forever His,
RevLady - so true!
AMEN!
The bible says to make disciples of all nations and to not hide our light under a bushel! Our faith must be public. I myself believe whole cultures can be transformed for the glory of God. Those who are filled with the Holy Spirit and called to the political realm can effect great change in a nation. It would be a grievous sin to forsake this calling.
George Washington recognized that our republic would fail without a Christian people and that Christianity( In general terms) must have the encouragement from the state.
Washington said this in his 1797 farewell address “reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle…Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”
But of course your correct in that the power of influence in the political realm be used of God for great good can also be used by the enemy for great evil.
Hi wba,
I do not disagree with any part of your comment. I think the temptation for Christian politicians is to maintain their Christian integrity in an atmosphere that often times demand unchristian compromises. It is certainly my prayer, and probably the prayer of many believers, that the political arena include strong in the faith, Holy Spirit filled children of God.
Thank you for your visit and stimulating comments. I think we are on the same page.
Love peace and joy in Him!
Forever His,
msorensson Level 3 Commenter 19 months ago
Wow.. what an awesome dissertation, RevLady.
I am afraid it will take a very long time to educate people and I am glad you are doing your part in a very beautiful way. One that appeals to the intellect.
There are, and there will be in the future, countries whose politics will always be run by the church. This is a fact, at least for our generation. Perhaps with what you are doing, educating, the generations following us would learn and act in awareness.
Thank you. I enjoyed your hub very much.